Charles Spinosa is a philosopher and management consultant. In this interview, he shares his journey from his days as a Shakespeare and then Heidegger scholar to the consulting world. Beginning in the late 1990s, he focused his management consulting on helping leaders understand their defining passions and developing strategies to make them lead their organizations and markets. Later, he came to see that his clients wanted to create morally distinctive organizations that gave customers, employees, and owners distinctive good lives different from the norm. He saw that they had to take moral risks to achieve that and recently wrote with Matt Hancocks and Hari Tsoukas Leadership as Masterpiece Creation about the moral risk-taking it takes to create businesses that are admirable moral masterpieces. Later, in the interview, he discusses one of his recent cases that involves helping a CEO manage a plural-truth organization and ends with thoughts on how philosophers who are open-hearted about business could play a role in keeping business from consuming itself in efficient agility. He calls for philosophers to help business leaders become noble.