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The Fire and the Sun: Why Plato Banished the Artists (1977) has puzzled scholars. The work looks like an introduction to Plato, yet assumes thorough understanding of the dialogues. Art is central to the argumentation, but the work does not meet the expectations of an aesthetics. It does not, for instance, discuss what is and what is not art. In this chapter, I address some of the puzzles by distinguishing a line of argumentation that is often hidden by more prominent arguments in this work. When Murdoch argues that Plato’s objection to art is ‘fundamentally religious’ (65), I wonder if the same can be said of her defence and of the experience that underlies the argumentation.

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‘The Point at Which Plato Starts Making Jokes’: Religion in The Fire and the Sun

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    2025年

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  • Hannah Marije Altorf

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The Fire and the Sun: Why Plato Banished the Artists (1977) has puzzled scholars. The work looks like an introduction to Plato, yet assumes thorough understanding of the dialogues. Art is central to the argumentation, but the work does not meet the expectations of an aesthetics. It does not, for instance, discuss what is and what is not art. In this chapter, I address some of the puzzles by distinguishing a line of argumentation that is often hidden by more prominent arguments in this work. When Murdoch argues that Plato’s objection to art is ‘fundamentally religious’ (65), I wonder if the same can be said of her defence and of the experience that underlies the argumentation.